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« on: May 01, 2008, 08:53:00 PM »

1397 JE 12.8:1 pistons
WEB IN 031 ( 386 lift/274 duration-248Deg. at .050 )
stock on the exhaust ( .345", 234 )
ported head
ape cam sprocket
ported tb
hmf high mount exhuast
18/43 sprocket
upgraded clutch

i have a lot of other work & mods.

 not sure what other info to give. I need to get my pcII reprogrammed
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 10:18:42 PM »

~190 hp? Nice daily driver.  thumbs  up

Add some nitrous!
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 10:27:09 PM »

sounds good......who is doing your head? not sure on your choice for gearing....how much arm u got on it? 18/43 is pretty much stock gearing but a touch easier on the chain, i would think that u will need more gear than that IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 10:27:53 PM »

I was told from 190 to 225. I was looking at a NX kit wet. 75 shot. crank came in today. balanced, lightened, counter weight gear removed, polished, nitrated, shot pinged. Well the works & the rods got all the works. Also stud'n everything I can.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 10:29:51 PM »

Pinky & I porting. I've did it for years on the 5.0 stangs. my arm is 2 to 5 over stock. I had a 16/47 gear. so have 16 or 18 for the front & 40,43 & 47 to pick from in the rear.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 10:31:40 PM »

sweet new wheels that pinky is trying not to give me now he has loved on them. LOL & painted plastic is coming soon. The complete build will be posted soon.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 10:46:34 PM »

mmmmmm Wet kit!
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 10:49:44 PM »

mmmmmm Wet kit!

I almost ordered 9:5.1 pistons so that Pinky & Gsxturbo could BOOST it. But want to ride her for awhile before going crazy. But after you see the pics & build you will also understand why no 4700.oo turbo set up but a nice 700.oo giggle gas set up. LOL nossmiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 10:52:41 PM »

If had it to do over again, I'd prolly go with no2.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 11:05:51 PM »

thinking of getting a set of crower rods that are good for 600plus hp & then going for the NX kit.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 08:02:37 PM »

1397 JE 12.8:1 pistons
WEB IN 031 ( 386 lift/274 duration-248Deg. at .050 )
stock on the exhaust ( .345", 234 )
ported head
ape cam sprocket
ported tb
hmf high mount exhuast
18/43 sprocket
upgraded clutch

i have a lot of other work & mods.

 not sure what other info to give. I need to get my pcII reprogrammed

The duration of 274 degrees on your intake cam is a bit too long in my opinion. It will tend to benefit/favor higher RPM operation more than lower RPM engine operation.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 08:11:11 PM »

i was going to do a custom grind but we was moving fast on the build so my choice was fast. i didn't want the yosh cam &all cams we looked at was all close to the same so took the lower cost one. lol
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 04:34:01 PM »

Werks , just add another 4-6 degree's to aproximate that intake cams duration if it was measured at .040 valve lift instead of the.050 Web uses .

The intake is pretty near what the Megacycle .385 duration is so you will be good to go if the cams are set on 103in/105ex . If a single OEM base gasket is used it will have a minimum *12.85 compression and thats enough to catch up with the overlap and build sufficient cylinder pressure to be able to make a little over 100lbs of TQ at 5000-5500 rpm  and run flat TQ line past 9000rpm depending on the portwork .

If you bring those centerlines up too much , it will be weak in the knees until around 7k rpm . HP is tough to estimate as dyno's vary big time and your using the HMF hi mounts . Suspect 195hp on an honest dyno .

If you need a starter map i have a couple i can email you .

* I said minimum because of not knowing your chamber volume .
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2009, 01:57:59 PM »

If had it to do over again, I'd prolly go with no2.
I HAVE HEARD THIS SEVERAL TIMES.

I THINKING ABOUT A 1397 KIT WITH AN 08 CRANK THEN ADD A SHOT OF SPRAY  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2009, 05:47:53 PM »

what squish are you running or looking for any off the head what head gasket are you running all this plays a part in what your comp will be and if you are going to possibly want some nos i would get a bigger or a little more duration on the exhaust cam to get all that out and the lower cam numbers like mentioned are good numbers especially with lower comp like you are running it should start ok there if you want to start on 1 battery you might run the cam numbers up a little and i would say depending on your squish you should have between 180 and 195 with good gas maybe 200 with a real good oxygenated fuel i dont see 220 unless you are at sea level then maybe but think that would be a stretch
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 10:28:57 PM »

1397 JE 12.8:1 pistons
WEB IN 031 ( 386 lift/274 duration-248Deg. at .050 )
stock on the exhaust ( .345", 234 )
ported head
ape cam sprocket
ported tb
hmf high mount exhuast
18/43 sprocket
upgraded clutch

i have a lot of other work & mods.

 not sure what other info to give. I need to get my pcII reprogrammed

Did you end up building it? What HP did it make? I would guess about 193-196 and 107-110 tq on pump gas.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 07:03:26 PM »

the build is done but not got frame polished body on or dyno tested. hope to soon so i can get PCII tuned
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2009, 02:39:15 PM »

Check out Wizards of Nos for your nitrous needs! Much smoother, Never need a rebuild, and all the tech help you can stand!!!
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2009, 08:07:12 PM »

you should sell me that 1397 motor.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2009, 09:34:12 PM »

you should sell me that 1397 motor.

you would not want it .. i has stock rods with turbo je pistons. but rods are balances,shotpinged & have ape bolts.lol. you build one with them crower rods. able to make more power. that thing i have is just for streets.
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