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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2008, 10:57:21 PM » |
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hmmmmmmm would say a 20 shot be worth the wild I see mps claiming to use a 40 shot with no mods talk about a melt down
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2008, 11:04:36 PM » |
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i wouldn't waste my time with less than 20. i don't even help people with busas if they don't agree to go atleast 50. i have sprayed several hundred pounds through my busa on just pump gas. for your bike i would say 30-40 just on a guess. if your bike makes 100ish, then 35 would be 1/3 of that. that is a safe amount. first thing to find out is how much HP your fuel system is legitimately good for.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2008, 11:09:55 PM » |
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For the most part I bought it too tune for the pipe and filter the pod settings are at the lowest that is when the bike runs the best but I did take it up higher and noticed the bike was running very rich It has 4 pod setttings adj 0-10 the first is for idle the 2nd is for mid rpm the 3rd is for high rpm the 4th is for when you go back and off the throttle and back on all of these pods work together to make a cool setup but I don't think it will work with the nos
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 11:17:19 PM » |
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pump the high and mid pod to add fuel. ask around to see what the max hp you fuel system will support is. on a busa, it is 225hp. that is a fairly safe # unless you got a really weak pump and injectors. some will go higher if you got a good pump and injectors. this fluctuation is only 5 or so each way though.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 11:18:28 PM » |
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I could not even imagine what a extra 30 horses on a bike would be like maybee a good kick in the pants I had it on a few cars but on a bike would be crazy I cant wait too do it thanks
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 11:21:48 PM » |
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So I guess a dry shot would be good them correct me if I'm wrong the Nos lol passes by the air temp sensor and the ecu makes up for the fuel if that is it that is pretty simple I'm going too find a kit and see what I can do
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 11:22:37 PM » |
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you mean on a car like this  
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 11:22:47 PM » |
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So I guess a dry shot would be good them correct me if I'm wrong the Nos lol passes by the air temp sensor and the ecu makes up for the fuel if that is it that is pretty simple I'm going too find a kit and see what I can do
you need to add fuel also 10% will do it wont adjust fast enough on just the sensor 
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2008, 11:23:56 PM » |
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So I guess a dry shot would be good them correct me if I'm wrong the Nos lol passes by the air temp sensor and the ecu makes up for the fuel if that is it that is pretty simple I'm going too find a kit and see what I can do
NO, do not rely on that to add fuel. use that box you have to pump it up. who cares if it stumbles on motor. you won't run it on motor ever again 
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2008, 11:26:30 PM » |
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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2008, 11:30:21 PM » |
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Thanks pinky so 10% fuel for the 30 shot
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2008, 11:35:49 PM » |
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Thanks pinky so 10% fuel for the 30 shot
you may want a bit more than that
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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2008, 11:38:52 PM » |
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you may want a bit more than that
true they add 10% on a busa which puts out alot more fuel best thing is to get it tuned if possible  or read the plugs to get it right if thats the only way you can get it
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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2008, 11:49:44 PM » |
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I'm looking at kits right now I might just go with a direct port fogger but I will have too add a extra pump or I might be able to upgrade my pump I have now hmmmmmmmmmmm
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2008, 12:45:04 AM » |
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Take a look at the Zex dry kit if you get a chance.A nice kit IMO.Used it on my Busa before I went to 
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2008, 08:46:01 PM » |
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that only works for small shots. you need something to enrichen for a worthwhile shot. can you manually pump the fuel at mid and high rpm with that box? if so, it'll work
Even for small shots of N O S, chilling the IAT sensor won't add anywhere nearly enough additional fuel for use with N O S. I've simulated the IAT sensor with resistance values that represent temperatures as low as -60 degrees Fahrenheit and it only makes very small increases in fueling. When spraying N O S, additional fuel needs to be added using an aftermarket device such as a Power Commander or the like.
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« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2008, 05:10:50 PM » |
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The change in air density per every 10 degrees Fahrenheit is roughly 2%.
As temperatures decrease, this 2% change in air density (per every 10 degrees Fahrenheit) changes only slightly (closer to 2.2% change in air density per every 10 degrees Fahrenheit by the time -40 degrees Fahrenheit has been achieved). Likewise, as temperatures increase, the 2% change in air density per every 10 degrees Fahrenheit decreases to more like 1.8% change in air density (per every 10 degrees Fahrenheit) by the time 100 degrees Fahrenheit has been achieved.
So, a 10 degree difference in temperature doesn't make a huge difference in HP although, there is definitely a difference (but who can feel a 2% difference on top of 155 or more RWHP). On the other hand, compared to a normal riding temperature of 85 degrees Fahrenheit, riding at 35 degrees Fahrenheit (50 degrees colder) yields roughly 10% greater air density and 10% greater HP. Ride at even colder temperatures (I even ride in single digits), and you can easily appreciate the extra HP of the motor (though it's easy to get a "brain freeze" at highway speeds if you're not wrapped and insulated appropriately).
Likewise, for every 750 feet of altitude gained, the dry air density also decreases by approximately 2%. So, a couple thousand feet isn't a big HP loss though HP actually has decreased. By the time 18,000 feet has been achieved, there is 50% less Oxygen per the same volume of air (so 50% less Oxygen per cylinder's worth of intake air). So by 18,000 feet, a sea-level dynoed 300 HP performance engine will only be producing roughly half as much HP! A stock sea-level dynoed 158 RWHP 99 thru 07 Hayabusa would only be putting out a wheezing 79 RWHP at 18,000 feet! Bummer, ay? On the other hand, how many roads do you think you're going to find at 18,000 feet. LOL
Note: 18,000 feet is considered extremely high altitude and it can only be endured for short lengths by those considered to be in very good health, but even the most healthy can quickly succumb to the lack of Oxygen at that altitude. Many mountain climbers have been killed by the Oxygen-lacking altitude alone.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 08:27:16 PM » |
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2009, 03:53:45 PM » |
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Look man. Here is the deal. If u have a 01 thru 03 u can slide the 1 k motor in easy. Dont waste anymore money. Cause that 600 just isnt gonna stand a chance against any 1k. By the time u buy nos powercommander and fill bottles once or twice u could have bought a car kit from ebay. and installed it. The back motor mounts fit fine. U dont need the front ones. I have done 6 now even a stunter. If he cant break it i know u cant.
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2009, 04:05:12 PM » |
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to bad he has sold the 02gsxr600. but u say on 01 thru 03 easy mod. well what about my 98 gsxr 600. i want fuel injection or maybe a 750.
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